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The Hasidim ‘n me

November 10, 2009 · 37 Comments

vLast night at Footsteps, I had an epiphany.

O.K. I had several.

Footsteps is a non-profit organization that offers support to people who want to reach beyond their Orthodox religious communities. They occasionally have authors come to talk about their own experiences leaving their faiths, and when a nice woman named Jamie called me this summer to ask if I’d be one of those authors, I hesitated only a little bit.

If you’ve ever seen the Hasidim, they’re the women with wigs and scarves and ultra-conservative clothes. The men wear long side curls (peyos) and white shirts and black pants and dark coats and hats. They look like they’ve wandered out of an eastern European shtetl — which most of their ancestors did.

I only know that word — how to spell it, not how to say it — because I spent a long-ago summer reading everything Isaac Bashevis Singer ever wrote. In fact, there were several moments in the evening when someone would say something in Yiddish and I would think, “So that’s how you say it.”

I have met Hasidic Jews and knew enough not to reach to touch any one — even to shake a hand, as for men that’s tantamount to sin, touching someone other than their wives. But the first guy through the door — side-curls and all — stuck his hand out and said, “Call me Loser,” only it’s spelled Luzer, and that’s his last name. He looked like a shorter version of the actor, Aidan Quinn, and I was immediately entranced. (In fact, Luzer wants to follow his look-alike into acting. In fact, unless he ends up on the cutting room floor, Luzer should appear in “The Good Wife” tonight at 10 p.m. I’m going to watch for him.)

The women were dressed more like me — pants and sweaters, and there was a big spread off to the side (I told Jamie I want to come back as a Jew because they have better food) and then we all settled in for a talk.

Beforehand, she’d told me because of the insulated nature of their earlier lives, the people in the room might not get some of my social references (I’d asked about that, because few things are uglier than a joke that falls flat) but I didn’t find that at all. We all laughed together, discussed a bit (not all of them are transitioning to a more progressive faith; some have left the idea of God behind altogether), and there were several moments when I wanted to sit down and weep — though I didn’t.

(I told them I promised I would not try to convert them, and if they’d fallen on the notion that there is no God, well, they wouldn’t hear from me.)

I found myself talking about the more conservative parts of my faith and someone in the crowd would say, “Yeah, we have that, too,” and they would explain a point of their faith that sounded every bit as picayune as some of my own.

I’d say “I say that with love,” but the attention to detail that fills some people’s interpretation of religion is harmful to the extreme. And I saw that in the room last night, there in lower Manhattan in this group of people. On Sunday, I would have said we share very little, me and these Jews. Walking to the subway last night — part of the way with Luzer, who was heading for Crown Heights, I believe he said — I knew differently. Luzer is in the process, though he still very much looks the part. He’s lost his job. He’s lost his home. He lived in a tent for a while, in his car — all because he wants to find a freer path through the world, and to the Holy.

These men and women are leaving behind families and jobs and a culture that hurts, even while it is achingly familiar. It is what they know, what on some level they believe they should love, this parent who slaps. Hard.

And yeah. I have that, too.

Categories: Balm in Gilead

37 responses so far ↓

  • Jay Croft // November 10, 2009 at 9:20 am | Reply

    Fascinating. Thank you for telling us about your trip.

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 9:31 am | Reply

    This makes me smile :-)
    Thanks for sharing…love ya, dj!

  • Vegas710 // November 10, 2009 at 10:20 am | Reply

    Wow. I can’t imagine being in a room full of such brave people. It takes a lot, a LOT, to do what they are doing.

    • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 11:36 am | Reply

      I was just thunderstruck at how brave (and joyful) they were. And I can’t imagine cutting myself off from such an insulated society with such a clear-eyed vision. Hell, I still struggle and I got off easy, considering.

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Reply

    One of my classmates last year had been a Christian early in his life and then converted to Judaism. We had long talks about religion while doing our Chemistry labs :-)

    He was moving in the other direction, becoming more conservative, and I believe he considered himself an Orthodox Jew. (Or at least Conservative but not Hasidic) He was enamored with the Torah and Jewish traditions and had plans to become a Rabbi. He had a particular school chosen in NY and it was just a matter of having the funds to go after his dream. Chemistry class prepared for interim employment. His eyes would light up when he’d talk about his faith and I knew what he was embracing was exactly right for him.

    Are there different types of Orthodox Jews? i.e. Hasidim and other Orthodox?

    I also knew a woman who was Orthodox Jew and was very restricted by the rules. I’m not sure if she was Hasidim. I don’t think she wore a wig and a scarf, but she always wore a long skirt according to her faith tradition and was dressed conservatively.

    • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 1:53 pm | Reply

      There are all kinds of orthodox Jews. Most people probably know more about the Lubavitchers because they’ve had more press. I guess there are shadings of ever branch, too.

      • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 3:28 pm

        Wow! I’m really uninformed in this area. I knew of Orthodox and Hasidic, but I’ve never heard of Lubavitchers. Why can’t Christians just be “Christians” and Jews be “Jews” for crying out loud? (You know I’m joking, right? Like we could sell that one to the Christians.)

  • Sherry // November 10, 2009 at 12:45 pm | Reply

    I can only imagine how awesome it was to join with these people. And I can’t imagine anyone better suited to do so. Rock on Sister DJ!

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Reply

    Is this Luzer? (Around 12-14secs into this clip)
    http://www.cbs.com/primetime/the_good_wife/video/?pid=OWAlA98FOcOhShg6Lo_THnbQeITpudMj

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 8:00 pm | Reply

    I don’t think the last link works. Maybe this? Look for Luzer.

    http://www.cbs.com/primetime/the_good_wife/video/?pid=OWAlA98FOcOhShg6Lo_THnbQeITpudMj&vs=Default&play=true

  • just joan // November 10, 2009 at 10:02 pm | Reply

    coming late to this party (again). i have a first cousin who is a hasidic rabbi. after knowing him my entire life, my most significant memory of him is when i went to the house after his mother died and went to hug him–as any loving family member would want to do–and he recoiled in horror. i just don’t get that–and i was raised jewish (though more culturally than religiously).
    at the same time i was horrified when he was sitting innocently in his car on his own street and was attacked by gunfire–just for being who he is. i don’t get that either–and miraculously he was (physically) uninjured.
    excuse the all lower case. it’s late and my caps are tired. ps–Jac–i like your “why can’t we just all…” attitude.

    • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 10:35 pm | Reply

      Someone shot at him? Jaysus. These people I met last night were just incredible. I would honestly go back and just sit and listen to them talk.

  • Mike // November 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm | Reply

    Fascinating experience! Just goes to show how the powerful human drives towards community (belonging) and for independence can be at odds in any faith.

    • datingjesus // November 11, 2009 at 4:52 pm | Reply

      I really enjoyed myself and want to go back. That’s weird, too. I stood before them thinking I had absolutely nothing to add to their conversation and I may have been right, but they sure added to mine.

  • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 3:58 pm | Reply

    I know the answer to this one: Because some Christians are more Christian than others.

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 4:11 pm | Reply

    Do you know if Hasidic Jews feel that way, too? That they are more Jewish than other Jews? Do they want to convert other Jews (and save souls) like some Christians? Any knocking on doors, for example?

  • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Reply

    No, I don’t believe they feel they have to evangelize, but I get the impression that among some of the more Orthodox Jews there is a lot of judgment going on about other Jews. Similar to Orthdox Christians, actually.

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 5:33 pm | Reply

    It’s interesting that with both Orthodox Christians & Jews: more Orthodox => more Judgment, Isolation & Fear => more Control over Congregation
    I am a little hesitant to suggest this, but is it that different than a cult? (using judgment, isolation and fear as a means to control)

  • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 5:47 pm | Reply

    I never know the answer to that. The definition of “cult” seems fluid to me. I’ve been asked multiple times if my own religion was a cult. I don’t believe that it was, though there are former members who say yes, it was.

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 6:19 pm | Reply

    Do you mean that it’s meaning is relative to the person using the term? Such as:
    “A cult is a church down the street from your church.” Anon

    I’m thinking that when there’s manipulation with threats (even if religious text is used to control), it sounds cult-like to me. The subtle difference might be in the judgment/shunning/fear. i.e. If you do not follow our words, then (fill in the threat)
    I don’t know if this is involved in Orthodox Judaism, but it’s definitely a part of some Orthodox Christian practices.

  • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 6:23 pm | Reply

    The threat of hellfire has kept many of us on the straight and narrow, yeah.

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Reply

    I’m thinking that some sort of deprogramming (whatever that really is I don’t know – specialized therapy?) may be beneficial not only to people who leave cults, but also to people who leave highly Orthodox religions.

  • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm | Reply

    I think Footsteps accomplishes something like that, along with their myriad other services.

  • Jac // November 10, 2009 at 10:56 pm | Reply

    Like a support group. I would think that would be nice.

  • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 11:48 pm | Reply

    Twelve minutes and I haven’t seen him yet, though there’ve been multiple Hasidic men with their backs toward the camera…man, I hope he made it in. We’re in teh courtroom now and I don’t think he’ll show up there.

  • datingjesus // November 10, 2009 at 11:48 pm | Reply

    Very much like that.

  • Jac // November 11, 2009 at 12:26 am | Reply

    Maybe he was one of the guys walking on the street early on with family. Not many faces were visible. It was an interesting show. I thought of the woman I used to know when the phone calls came up. Oops.

  • datingjesus // November 11, 2009 at 8:06 am | Reply

    I looked away a moment in the beginning, and saw two Hasidim (men) walking by and thought, “Crap! I bet that was Luzer.”

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