Sen. Harry Reid stabbed it and killed it.
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First it’s “forget the new breast cancer guidelines” and now this. It’s like the world is self-correcting and I can’t wait to see what’s next. Maybe we’ll work our way up from #31 this next year.
Wouldn’t THAT be something?
Well, you know………….
If it’s not Single Payer, it’s not reform.
That said, some excellent early analysis of the Senate and proposed merged bills can be found at FDL Action. There’s a half dozen articles there. (Those people work their butts off.)
Their analysis isn’t really encouraging. Especially since they’re not exactly Single Payer advocates. But I have a lot of respect for their work.
Stupak may be dead, but the ghost seems to live on ……..
And I haven’t found much on SCHIP or Medicare yet.
But with continuing government mandated domination of our national healthcare system, justice will remain elusive.
Excellent link, Leftover, and thank you.
I’ll say it again. Those people work their butts off.
One of the early controversies being raised is the issue of actual cost containment vs. we hope it’s cost containment.
But I’m not going to provide links to those discussions because I’m in a snit. Nobody is asking why the CBO has not scored Single Payer.
Could it be we could be saving trillions instead of spending hundreds of billions….buying for-profit, private domination………..well…you know…discrimination
So…I’m going to have a tea.
Pick up my old copy of The Antichrist, and let Friedrich try to convince me madness may not be such a bad thing….considering…..
Do you trust the CBO? I am learning to trust no one but you, Leftover.
It’s true the CBO can be skewed by political pressure and speculation. But they still provide the basis for judging cost…or savings. Once they issue a report, it’s in the public record on how they came to whatever conclusion they arrived at, bringing Single Payer into the economic end of the debate. With poll numbers showing consistent preference for universal healthcare, it confounds me why the American people are denied the facts and figures of Medicare for all.
If the numbers don’t work…let’s see them.
That makes sense. Over all, I think the Congressional Budget Office does a great job, but I woke up this morning and decided not to trust any one but you. All day. Don’t let me down.
Great. No pressure.
I usually get pretty cranky spending too much time on issues related to dollars and cents because I think we should be focusing on doing the right thing for those in need instead of those in greed.
But…..
From PNHP…..
Single-payer financing is the only way to recapture this wasted money. [Money not spent on healthcare: overhead, underwriting, billing, sales and marketing, huge profits, lobbying and exorbitant executive pay... costly administrative staffs, bureaucracy... consuming one-third (31 percent) of Americans’ health dollars...] The potential savings on paperwork, more than $350 billion [emphasis added] per year, are enough to provide comprehensive coverage to everyone without paying any more than we already do.
The financial viability of a single-payer system has been analyzed time and again by researchers both from the U.S. government and independent consulting firms. Each time the conclusion is the same: single-payer saves enough on wasteful paperwork to provide high quality health coverage to all and contain future health spending. This paper catalogs the analyses of proposed single-payer systems at both the federal and state levels. [Includes previous reports from The GAO and CBO on earlier Single Payer proposals.]
Initial implementation could be more costly, but in the long run, publicly financed, privately delivered universal healthcare could save trillions in the long term.
Consider what Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH, had to say in 2008 about Getting What We’ve Already Paid For…..
Even families with no health insurance contribute substantially to our health care system through taxes. Recognizing these hidden costs that U.S. households pay for health care today makes it far easier to see how a universal single-payer system—with all of its obvious advantages—can cost most Americans less than the one we have today.
Since the debate began, the economic benefits of a Single Payer system have been locked out the discussion. Obama and his advocates in Congress and the media manufacturing consent for health insurance legislation deemed Single Payer “not feasible” for one reason only:
Single Payer does nothing to guarantee profits to private industry.
The Single Payer movement has the support of the majority of Americans. It’s fiscally responsible, financially sustainable and is the quickest, most efficient way of dealing with our national healthcare crisis. (Remember…people dying….). The only thing it lacks is solidarity.
Our common ground must be social justice: an end to discrimination in all its forms. If all the disparate groups currently clamoring for rights oppressed or denied could come together, and work together under that one banner, we would make much greater progress.
How’s that?
Coming up next…..Is that choice?
That was really very informative, and you have yet to let me down, Leftover. I promise that as of — say — 6 p.m., I will stop putting all this pressure on you. Until then, though…don’t screw the pooch. A lot is riding on you: My trust, my sense of purpose, my hope in the future.
….oops…..
…didn’t see the post ’till well after six…..
I hope trust, sense of purpose and hope are not too badly compromised………
But there’s a lot of that going around.
The Catholic Bishops are unhappy, too.
Didn’t see their names on the Manhattan Manifesto.
The Lords of Conscience. They know how to wrap it up nice, though.
But it’s still playing politics with women’s lives.
Reproductive rights cannot be bargained away for any reason. Autonomy over our bodies is essential to health care and to democracy.
I love you, Leftover.
I’m pretty fond of you, as well.
If we’re all very lucky, this anti-abortion nonsense will Kill the Bill so we can start over.
I want to start over with a clear idea of what we are heading for, though. Jaysus, this is fascinating.
I’m going to lose computer time to the WoW fanatics here before long……….(…maybe a good thing…)
But Ida Hellander, MD, at PNHP has posted talking points on HR 3962 with some comparisons to the Senate (Reid) bill in bold.
From a different perspective, Emily Holleman at Salon looks at the Senate vs. the House on healthcare reform.
And Jon Walker at FDL Action posts about a rather disturbing aspect of The Senate Bill, a provision creating national health plans which would strip away state regulations currently in place mandating types of essential coverage.
This provision completely breaks Obama’s promise that you will “be able to keep the health insurance coverage you have now.” …..The inclusion of this provision was a huge victory for the lobbyists from the for-profit health insurance corporations.
Excellent. And thank you.
You’re off the hook. You performed beautifully, and thank you. Every once in a while, Bro. Leftover, I’m just going to pin all my hopes on you.
I love my senator! I went and met with his office to say WE WANT A PUBLIC OPTION!
Did I say I love him? So proud of Harry!
Kewlness! Carol in Reno for Health Czarina! Or, at least, Really Good Citizen!
“If we’re all very lucky, this anti-abortion nonsense will Kill the Bill so we can start over.”
I love the smell of hope in the morning….
…and of course that should have followed Leftover’s (nominal) 8:11AM post.
WordPress has the burps. I knew where that went, though.